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Derivative work fix - will it be deleted?[edit]

I was given a notice for File:Tier list fruits.jpg not including the documentation required for being a derivative work. I just included that documentation (all works incorporated were from Commons, so it was okay). Are there other steps I need to take to prevent the file from being deleted? The notice is still there, but I didn't want to remove it because it seems like the notice should be evaluated by someone other than the uploader of the file. BappleBusiness (talk) 18:46, 15 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

This doesn't need a permission, as all the sources are free. However it lacks categories. Thanks, Yann (talk) 18:57, 15 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@BappleBusiness: There is a problem though: Table grapes on white.jpg and Strawberry444 (cropped).jpg are licensed under GFDL 1.2 only, and that licence isn't compatible with CC-BY-SA 4.0. The images may be combined as a collection or aggregate, which does not need to have a common licence, and the file could be regarded as such, but then the licences need to be stated individually. I don't know how you do that according to Commons' practices. –LPfi (talk) 07:03, 25 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Cell phone images[edit]

Is it legal to upload cell phone pics onto Wikimedia Commons? Megacheez (talk) 00:22, 17 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Megacheez: Hi, and welcome. If you took the pics and there is nothing non-free depicted by the pics, yes. If the pics are of World Series programs less than 95 years old, no. If in doubt, please see COM:L and COM:DW, or ask more specific questions here.   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 00:43, 17 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Jeff G.: How do I upload pics from my cell phone? Megacheez (talk) 03:55, 19 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Megacheez: UploadWizard or COM:APP.   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 03:20, 20 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Postcard upload[edit]

Can I upload a scan of an old postcard of a town (dated c. 1969) if I credit the photographer and the production company? MonkeyPuzzle1 (talk) 17:40, 18 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Russian copyright law issue[edit]

I would like to upload the photos of the ash dump of the Novosibirsk CHP-5, made by Alexander Oshchepkov as employee of Novosibirsk online-media NGS.ru (here is the article for which these photos were made https://ngs.ru/text/summer/2019/06/07/66116086/).

According to the paragraph 3 of the article 1274 of the Russian Civil Code the reproduction of the work - for free but with a mandatory indication of the name of the author - is allowed, if this work was published in media articles on current economic, political, social, religious issues, and if such reproduction was not prohibited by author or rightholder.

Each photo used in the NGS.ru article accompanied by the button "Share". I think it means than neither NGS.ru nor Alexander Oshchepkov oppose free usage of these photos.

I want to use aforementioned photos in articles dedicated to Novosibirsk in English and Russian Wikipedia.

What do you think about this? K8M8S8 (talk) 19:11, 18 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

This is sort of a fair use, which is not allowed on Commons. Ruslik (talk) 20:05, 20 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

junancy b wanderley jr[edit]

estou tentando colocar "minhas fotos" de "minha autoria", do Engenho Monjope, mas não são aceitas! porque? Junancy B Wanderley Jr (talk) 01:42, 19 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I'm trying to put "my photos" of "my authorship", from Engenho Monjope, but they are not accepted! why?
translator: Google Translate via   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 10:53, 19 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Junancy B Wanderley Jr: Olá, e bem-vindo. O que você quer dizer com "não são aceitas"? Quem ou o que é o "Engenho Monjope"?
Hi, and welcome. What do you mean by "not accepted"? Who or what is "Engenho Monjope"?   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 10:53, 19 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Category:Hanover Township, Northampton County, Pennsylvania[edit]

IN WHAT YEAR DID HANOVER TWP. NORTHAMPTON COUNTY BECOME A CLASS 2 TWP.? 216.164.113.58 09:29, 19 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi, and welcome. Try turning off your caps-lock and using the "Contact Us" data at the bottom of https://hanovertwp-nc.org/. You could also try actually doing the reading for that class.   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 09:53, 19 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hva vil dere at jeg skal gjøre her?[edit]

This file may be deleted. A file that you have uploaded to Wikimedia Commons, File:Puslespill AA S Laerdal.jpg, is a derivative work, containing an "image within an image". Examples of such works would include a photograph of a sculpture, a scan of a magazine cover, or a map that has been altered from the original. In each of these cases, the rights of the creator of the original must be considered, as well as those of the creator of the derivative work. While the description page states who made this derivative work, it currently doesn't specify who created the original work, so the overall copyright status is unclear. If you did not create the original work depicted in this image, you will need to specify the owner of the copyright. Please edit the file description and add the missing information, or the file may be deleted. If you created the original content yourself, enter this information as the source. If someone else created the content, the source should be the address to the web page where you found it, the name and ISBN of the book you scanned it from, or similar. You should also name the author, provide verifiable information to show that the content is in the public domain or has been published under a free license by its author, and add an appropriate template identifying the public domain or licensing status, if you have not already done so. Please add the required information for this and other files you have uploaded before adding more files. If you need assistance, please ask at the help desk. Thank you! TommyG (diskusjon) 09:24, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[svar] Source of derivative work is not properly indicated: File:Puslespill produsert av Åmund S. Lærdal Disney.jpg[rediger] Kolbkorr (talk) 09:40, 19 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

What do you want me to do here?
translator: Google Translate via   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 10:35, 19 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Kolbkorr: Hei og velkommen. Vi vil at du skal endre grensesnittspråket ditt til norsk eller bruke https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kolbkorr?uselang=no og se Commons:Copyright rules by territory/Norway/nb, https://commons-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Commons:Derivative_works?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=no&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp , og https://commons-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Template:Dw_image_source?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=no&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp .
Hi, and welcome. We want you to change your interface language to Norwegian or use https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kolbkorr?uselang=no and see COM:NORWAY, COM:DW, and Template:Dw image source.   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 10:35, 19 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Pinging @TommyG as tagger and FunkMonk as our no-3 Admin.   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 10:42, 19 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I have replied on the users talk page. TommyG (talk) 11:50, 19 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@TommyG: Thanks. Babel boxes help people know what languages you understand.   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 18:05, 19 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
👍 - added some. TommyG (talk) 19:07, 19 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Ser ud til det er blevet ordnet? FunkMonk (talk) 22:31, 19 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Copyright help regarding File:TBC Bank Uzbekistan logo.svg[edit]

Hello!

I received a notification that if within 7 days I do not indicate the appropriate type of license for the file File:TBC Bank Uzbekistan logo.svg, which I uploaded to Wikipedia, the file will be deleted. I don't know about licenses. I took this file from the official website of the bank. And he indicated this information in the description of the file with a direct link to the file. Help me please. So I don't want the file to be deleted. --Islomov2 (talk) 17:43, 19 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Islomov2: Hi, and welcome. Why would it be legal to upload that file to the Uzbek language Wikpedia? Note that the bottom of https://tbcbank.uz/uz says "© 2022 ATB "TBC BANK" Litsenziya #86, 17.03.2022. Veb-sayt materiallaridan foydalanganda www.tbcbank.uz veb-sayti havolasi koʻrsatilishi shart." or "© 2022 ATB "TBC BANK" License #86, 17.03.2022. When using the materials of the website, the link to the website www.tbcbank.uz must be indicated." (via Google Translate). Please read COM:L thoroughly.   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 17:50, 19 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Honestly. I don't understand Wikipedia's license types. The bank's website refers to the bank's license. I think it's completely different. Can you help and edit the license type of the file correctly?Islomov2 (talk) 18:15, 19 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Commons can only accept content that is either in the {{Public domain}} or under a free license that allows commercial use and derivative works. This would not appear to meet those criteria. Most content on the Internet does not: a major point of Commons is to gather together this more freely reusable content and not to include images that are likely to result in a reuser getting sued! - Jmabel ! talk 21:09, 19 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Blessing[edit]

We are coming in Oct. I would like to know if someone can give us a health and marriage blessing we are going to be married 53 years. Thank you 47.20.255.125 22:47, 19 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi, and welcome. To what place are you coming?   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 02:49, 20 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Image which is over several years and images' copyright time limitation[edit]

Helloǃ

I am planning to upload an image. However, I have no idea if I could upload it since it is on a website. The content in that image is over 50 years old, but the image itself looks not too far from now. Can I still upload that Image to Wikipedia? Does that image still in the range of copyright protection time? Remixia (talk) 00:08, 20 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Remixia: Hi, and welcome. Where did you find it exactly? Please see COM:NETCOPYRIGHT.   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 02:47, 20 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  1. Most likely, something you "happen to find on the Internet" is not going to be acceptable for Commons. Probably 95% of what is out there is not, maybe more.
  2. If you can't tell from reading COM:NETCOPYRIGHT, it would be a lot easier to answer a question that gives a specific URL and lets us look at what site and image you are talking about rather than "it's somewhere on the Internet." - Jmabel ! talk 03:56, 20 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
[1] Remixia (talk) 20:48, 20 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Remixia: Thank you. Are you writing of the mascot main photo, or the Pre-Columbian Mesoamerican stone statue photos?   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 21:36, 20 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I mean the mascot's image. Remixia (talk) 21:43, 20 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I see no reason to think that would not be copyrighted. For all we know, the photo (though not the object itself) could be quite recent. In any case, though, in Mexico any photo whose author died after 1952 remains copyrighted, and it's pretty certain these are more recent than that. - Jmabel ! talk 23:32, 20 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I attempted to upload an image which I wish to license under CC BY 4.0, but the first page stated I can only upload content into public domain.[edit]

I'm a bit unsure how I can ago about this, I see many CC 4.0 images on Wikimedia Commons. Nlpat016 (talk) 08:49, 20 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Nlpat016 the option is present for using the licence once of your choice. IMxeex, using the upload wizard, that is the licence that is presented to you as first choice. This appears after your picture is physically uploaded but before it is published. Please check that and come back with further questions. 🇺🇦 Timtrent 🇺🇦 talk to me 🇺🇦 10:14, 20 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Oh yes, thank you. I apologize for the question. I didn't do my research well. Thank you again! 2405:201:201E:F82E:C101:8870:DCD9:2905 10:16, 20 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Nlpat016: Hi, and welcome. Please stay logged in, or you will not be able to upload.   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 10:29, 20 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

How to change category in Wikidata[edit]

I need to correct a category in Wikimedia. On my husband Peter Lodwick the category "unmarried partner" shows, with my name as his unmarried partner. But we have been married for 30 years. I do not understand how to change the category itself. Can anybody help? Makro63 (talk) 14:43, 20 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • @Makro63: you are asking this on Wikimedia Commons, not on Wikidata (which is what drives that). The relevant page is Peter Lodwick (Q112630388). Wikidata can be tricky to edit, so you might just want to post this at wikidata:Wikidata:Project chat and someone will presumably follow up there. And it's nothing about the "category" as such that you need to change, what you need to change is the statement there that currently identifies you as an unmarried partner (you need to delete that and add one that describes you as a spouse). - Jmabel ! talk 15:11, 20 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Thank you so much! I logged in on Wikidata, but will try again:) 84.208.124.149 05:44, 21 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

My name Terra saaed[edit]

I supposedly had an account made already with terms and all and didn’t know what to do terrasaaed2@gmail.com —Preceding unsigned comment was added by 2601:CF:1:1BF0:0:0:0:6993 (talk) 07:28, 21 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

If you've forgotten the name of your account, just start a new one. - Jmabel ! talk 15:12, 21 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

How do I correctly upload & license paintings by my deceased father?[edit]

Hello! I am trying to upload a photo of a painting my deceased father painted, an artist. I am the only heiress and own all his oeuvre and was trying to write an article about his biography. How can I correctly indicate this? A user has requested the deletion of one painting I uploaded as I licensed it as my "own work". Now I cannot change that anymore (or I don't know how at least). How is the correct procedure? Thank you so much in advance! EvaKatrinStolz (talk) 07:44, 21 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Sounds like you need to go through the process of sending an e-mail to Wikimedia Commons, confirming that you own the rights to the painting. This process is described here: COM:VRT. You can use the Release generator to create an e-mail you can send. TommyG (talk) 08:55, 21 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
You should also state his name instead of yours as author. You can have yours as now in addition, as photographer (if you took the photo), preferably using {{photo|EvaKatrinStolz}}. –LPfi (talk) 09:22, 21 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The date field should also preferably be on the original work. If you don't know the year (or exact date), you can use a timespan or "before", "probably" or the like (there is a template, {{Other date}}, but as soon as the information is there, anybody can put it in the template, so you needn't worry). –LPfi (talk) 09:26, 21 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
As for licensing, there are specific licenses that can be used by heirs: try Template:Cc-by-3.0-heirs or Template:PD-heirs. (I asked this same question recently about photographs taken by my dead father.) Choliamb (talk) 18:34, 21 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Copyright expired[edit]

Hello I've come across a website [2] that looks like a public domain and has expired copyright 4 years ago. Can I use this image under PD license or what would an appropriate license tag be okay for it?  Rejoy2003  09:16, 21 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

No, that's not how copyright works. The footer stating "Copyright 2015 to 2018" doesn't mean anything on this page is in the public domain without an explicit release. TommyG (talk) 10:26, 21 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Footer stating copyright with a year span means in which year the content has been created (the site) and which year it was updated the latest. It has nothing to do with expiration of copyright, expiration of copyright is still driven by law, which most likely expires after 70 years after the death of the author if author is known, or after 70 years after publication if authorship is unknown (not registered). Exact copyright rules depend on the country of origin, which you can learn from Commons:Copyright rules by territory. What you assumed as copyright expiration was entirely wrong. Polda18 (discussioncontributions) 12:02, 21 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Quero saber como faço pra enviar as imagens[edit]

Ola como que posso enviar as imagens? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Frederico Manuel Lourenço (talk • contribs) 21:55, 21 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I want to know how do I send the images
Hi, how can I send the images?
translator: Google Translate via   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 22:32, 21 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Frederico Manuel Lourenço: Olá, e bem-vindo. Por favor, veja COM:REUSE/pt e COM:SIGN/pt.
Hi, and welcome. Please see COM:REUSE and COM:SIGN   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 22:32, 21 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I am asking for permanent deletion of the account and address email, username and all information[edit]

I am asking for permanent deletion of the account and address email, username and all information Login: REMOVED Password: REMOVED e-mail: REMOVED https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Net-komp_2552 Thank you for considering my case positively, Best regards Net-komp 2552 (talk) 22:40, 21 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Net-komp 2552:
  1. I can't imagine why you are posting all of this so publicly! Have you never heard of the Streisand effect? In posting email address, etc., you are posting information that was not previously public.
  2. We don't really delete accounts. You may be looking for meta:Right to vanish.
  3. This request appears to be your only contribution on Commons.
Jmabel ! talk 23:05, 21 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Net-komp 2552: Never EVER post online your password, even if you intend to delete your account, ANYWHERE. I suggest censoring these informations and removing the public edit from history to maintain your privacy, but I think that it is already too late, the damage has been done. You should be extremely cautious of what you're posting online and where you're writing such informations. Phishing campaigns exist that are designed to steal your login credentials, which I agree is sometimes hard to notice. But publicly listing your login credentials, completely willingly? That's straight out wrong. I just really hope you don't use the same password for your email address publicly listed here as well (even tho I kind of think you do). I ask an admin to remove the sensitive informations, censore them, and remove public edit in history so it's inaccessible. Just for you to know, that's for your own good, to protect your privacy and to protect your online accounts. Otherwise a solicit actor could get access to your banking account as well. Polda18 (discussioncontributions) 05:51, 22 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Net-komp 2552: I removed the sensitive informations and requested hiding that edit of yours from history on administrators' noticeboard. Polda18 (discussioncontributions) 07:05, 22 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Info. caricamento foto per WLM[edit]

Buonasera, ho caricato diverse foto per il concorso. Purtroppo una di queste all' ID Q113493395 12H2820032, non me la carica in quanto risulta duplicata. La cosa mi sorprende in quanto se vado a cercare la foto nell'elenco (al suo ID) non la trovo. Si tratta della foto "La disperazione nel Monumento ai Caduti ... " Grazie. Roberto_WLM (talk) 00:05, 22 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Info. Upload photos for WLM

Good evening, I uploaded several photos for the contest. Unfortunately one of these at the ID Q113493395 12H2820032, I do not load it as it is duplicated. This surprises me because if I go to look for the photo in the list (to its ID) I cannot find it. This is the photo "Despair in the War Memorial ..."

Thank you.
translator: Google Translate via   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 00:28, 22 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Roberto Barone ph: Ciao e benvenuto. Abbiamo già un memoriale WLM "12H2820032" a Q113493395 approvato da Rieti, ma non ci sono foto associate su Wikidata. Intendevi File:La disperazione nel Monumento ai Caduti del bombardamento del Borgo.jpg? Potresti chiedere a Commons:Wiki Loves Monuments/Help desk, si spera con maggiori dettagli.
Hi, and welcome. We already have a WLM memorial "12H2820032" at Q113493395 approved by Rieti, but there is no associated photo on Wikidata. Did you mean File:La disperazione nel Monumento ai Caduti del bombardamento del Borgo.jpg? You may wish to ask at Commons:Wiki Loves Monuments/Help desk, hopefully with more specifics.   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 00:28, 22 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Editing[edit]

There is a spelling mistake in my username. I would like to rectify it — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aaryeadee (talk • contribs) 05:41, 22 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

See COM:UPOL#Changing your username. Polda18 (discussioncontributions) 06:17, 22 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
or simply click >here<. --Achim55 (talk) 18:00, 22 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Refrigerator build up inside and outside at the back[edit]

My Kenmore refrigerator frost up at the back behind the water line. At first the main valve was clogged so the technician used steamer to defrost the valve and cleaned the water and ice formed. After 1 month it happened again and another technician said it’s unrepairable. There’s no or enough insulation in between the inside and outside walls of the refrigerator. So he did not fix it all. It’s manufacturers defect? Please respond. Frontier22 (talk) 16:18, 22 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Frontier22: Hi, and welcome. I hope https://www.sears.com/en_us/customer-service.html (or local equivalent) helps you, because your question is oos here.   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 16:29, 22 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I cannot upload a file to make it public[edit]

I cannot upload a file to make it public Alejandro Pérez Cortés (talk) 04:50, 23 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Alejandro Pérez Cortés: You can only upload images that are freely licenced or in the public domain. Most images you find on the internet are copyright and we cannot use them unless their copyright status is clearly free, so you cannot make it public without that verification. See the warning banner at the top of this page Commons:Upload. Ww2censor (talk) 09:53, 23 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Uploading scanned picture from an old book[edit]

Hi! I have scanned a picture of an author from an old book and would like to upload it to his Wikipedia page. However, I'm unsure if I can. Pktamrakar (talk) 17:43, 23 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Pktamrakar: When and where was it published and is there attribution to the author of the picture? Ww2censor (talk) 21:57, 23 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Copyright help regarding File:Transi de René de Chalon retable, détail (467 x 700).jpg[edit]

What tag is appropriate for this file to meet the criteria for copyright status? --Iwego (talk) 18:07, 23 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Iwego: the cites source says "tous droits réservés" (all rights reserved) and shows the copyright symbol. Do you have any reason to believe that is inaccurate? If it's accurate, then this doesn't belong on Commons. - Jmabel ! talk 22:02, 23 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Jmabel: Thanks for your answer! Can you please tell me more, can users remove their uploaded images from Wikimedia themselves, or is this only allowed through a deletion mark? - Iwego (talk) 03:34, 24 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Iwego: If it's your own recent upload (7 days or less) and it isn't being used in Wikipedia or another WMF project, just mark the page with {{subst:My bad upload}} and it should get deleted pretty quickly. (For obvious reasons, most users don't have the right to delete pages.) - Jmabel ! talk 03:43, 24 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Table from book[edit]

I would like to upload a table from a book to my Wikipedia article. It is allowed if I add the citation? If not, could you please tell me how can I get permission? Thank you. Porkey & Toothy (talk) 18:21, 23 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • @Porkey & Toothy: Typically not allowed, presuming the book is still in copyright. Can you be more specific? In general, if the work is copyrighted, and the table is not so trivial as to be below the "threshold of originality," you would need the copyright-holder's permission (via COM:VRT, but for a book you are very unlikely to get that. - Jmabel ! talk 22:04, 23 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

picture[edit]

can I rename picture? Rieux1 (talk) 19:59, 23 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Rieux: You can't rename a file because you do not have the rights to do so, but you can request it to be moved to a different name. Check out Commons:File renaming, follow the procedure and it will get done in due course. Ww2censor (talk) 22:03, 23 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Auckland NZ 1938 photo[edit]

I would like to know if I can upload this 1938 new Zealand photo. The copyright period in NZ is 70 years so the photo is in the public domain. But it is in the possession of the Auckland Public Library and they have given me permission to publish in wiki provided its source as part of their collection is acknowledged. See supporting material Yelsorc (talk) 20:22, 23 September 2022 (UTC) [/Users/johnmcsoriley/Desktop/RE: Feedback for item: Christian Brothers' School, Auckland, 1938] - john.mcsoriley@gmail.com - Gmail.webarchiveReply[reply]

Upload of my own national sports team photo[edit]

Can I upload and reference a 1989 photo of my national schoolboy team that I am in? It was a photo provide by the national body to all players in team, and at the time distributed elsewhere, but there is no apparent copy published on web anywhere. MamboB (talk) 01:45, 24 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@MamboB: No, you may not upload it unless the photographer or national body sends permission via VRT.   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 02:42, 24 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Translation of Metadata from Dutch to English[edit]

Koningin van de Maori's in Nieuw-Zeeland, Dame Te-Atairangikaahu, op Schiphol af, Bestanddeelnr 928-0447

This is a picture of en:Te Atairangikaahu and I'd like to use it there. Could someone who speaks Dutch please translate the metadata? I don't want to have to guess. Stuartyeates (talk) 04:13, 24 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The file does not have any metadata (EXIF). Do you mean the description in the info template? It is very simple and can be translated by online machine translation (deepl.com for example). However that is no verification, if the infromation is actually correct. The image is from an archive. Archives often use the information that comes with an image and do not themselves verify it, or even mangle it up accidently. C.Suthorn (talk) 05:38, 24 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
✓ Done. I think the info of the National Archives of the Netherlands is highly reliable. Ellywa (talk) 05:44, 24 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@C.Suthorn: while colloquially on Commons we usually mean EXIF when we say "metadata", properly speaking any data about the image that is not part of the visual image is metadata. Everything other than the visual image or its digital representation that is on a file page or in an archive's database is metadata. - Jmabel ! talk 15:32, 24 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I know, but we have a heading "Metadata" (that contains EXIF/IPTC/XMP and nothing else) and a heading summary/description for what was asked for here. Heading summary/date and summary/author get autotranslated (if templates are used). Why is ther no "language select/show all" drop down box, if there are two languages? With long descriptions like in this image, it is confusing. C.Suthorn (talk) 09:33, 25 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Litfasssäule_Konzertankündigung_Jenny_Korb_und_Arthur_Benda_(Detail).jpg[edit]

I don't quite understand it, the rights were provided with the wizard - a mail was sent to permission-de@wikimedia.org (transaction number: 4819-d7e6cbf3f4a210fa.), yet it is not marked as rights cleared. Why? Thanks!

Mepherl (talk) 08:06, 24 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Mepher1: please ask this question at Commons:Volunteer Response Team/Noticeboard and include the VRT ticket no. if you have received a response to your mail. But please wait a week or two, because the VRT volunteers tend to be overloaded. Ellywa (talk) 10:44, 24 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Mepher1: I've added the tag to File:Litfasssäule Konzertankündigung Jenny Korb und Arthur Benda (Detail).jpg to indicate that permission is pending (do note in the instructions at Commons:Volunteer Response Team#If you are NOT the copyright holder that you should have done that). Another missing step is to provide a tag corresponding to the license they will be providing. I can't do that for you, because I don't know.
Assuming they do eventually provide permission and VRT verifies that, even if the image has been deleted in the meanwhile, it will be undeleted. - Jmabel ! talk 15:40, 24 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thank you! --Mepherl (talk) 15:23, 25 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Copyright help regarding File:Transportation of the statue of Ligier Richier to Paris, Bar-le-Duc station, 1917.jpg[edit]

The original photo was taken 105 years ago. It was published on the site "Conservation des Antiquités et objets d'Art du department de la Meuse". The author of the photo is not specified, as far as I understand. Will using this file infringe copyright? If there is a violation, how many years must pass before this photo can be freely used? - Iwego (talk) 08:41, 24 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Per community voting of Commons:Village pump/Copyright/Archive/2017/03#Cut-off date for the PD-old template and Template:PD-old-assumed a photo which is older than 120 years can be maintained. So this photo has to be deleted until 121+1917=2038, regrettably (Unless you find evidence that it has been published anonymously in France more then 70 years ago). Ellywa (talk) 10:46, 24 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Ellywa: Thanks for clarifications. If I may, I have one more question. This photo appears in the video on the YouTube channel "Meuse Attractivité" on 9m 41s (link). Will there be copyright infringement if I take a screenshot of this old photo from YouTube and post it to Wikimedia, crediting the video as the source? - Iwego (talk) 22:50, 24 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Iwego: Yes, sorry.   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 23:18, 24 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Insérer des images sur une page (exemple pour Traînage) que j'ai créé.[edit]

Voir la page sur: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Tra%C3%AEnage Je voudrai insérer une ou deux photos sur cette page en complément du texte et n'ai pas trouvé l'astuce pour y parvenir. Merci de m'apporter la solution. GRDROND (talk) 09:14, 24 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Vous devez ajouter [[Category:Traînage]] aux pages de fichiers. (Translated with Google into French). Ellywa (talk) 10:49, 24 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Screenshot from the music video[edit]

Is a screenshot from a music video a copyright infringement if the image information contains a link to the 2016 official video and the name of the artist? Example: frame at 2m 27s from this video. Iwego (talk) 01:50, 25 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Yes, it is copyright infringement, so no, not allowed on Commons. Note that there is a clear copyright notice in the text "℗ & © 2006 - Stuffed Monkey". Even if there wasn't should be assumed to be copyrighted and not free for Commons unless there was a specific statement of a free license. -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 03:02, 25 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    @Infrogmation: Do I understand correctly that this screenshot also violates copyright, because the video source from where it was taken doesn't have a free license statement? Iwego (talk) 09:08, 25 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    • @Iwego: When adding the license there, you claimed to be the copyright holder. I take it you are not. So, yes, that's a copyvio. - Jmabel ! talk 15:33, 25 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

What's the preferred way to translate Commons:Welcome?[edit]

Should I just copy-paste the wikitext and translate it or is there some other method? Thanks. Strainu (talk) 13:41, 25 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Strainu: Near the top of the page is a box containing links to all the different languages this page is available in. There is no need to translate the English version, unless you want to create and contribute a language that is not already listed. Ww2censor (talk) 14:18, 25 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Well, yes, that was the point of my question, how to create the page in a new language. Strainu (talk) 14:23, 25 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Photo Upload not possible![edit]

Photo Upload from mobile phone is not being able. After pressing the 'upload' button the process is stopping! What's the reason? Sumasa (talk) 18:29, 25 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Sumasa: It works for me, please try waiting longer or adding details.   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 14:25, 26 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Change location data in structured data[edit]

File:1150 Wien, Felberstraße 2022-08-20.jpg had a wrong location in the metadata. I uploaded a new version and corrected the entry in the image description page. I was not able to change the structured data location for whatever reason. I can change the location or delete the incorrect and add the new location, but I can not save it. Does anybody have any ideas on that? --Hangman'sDeath (talk) 04:49, 26 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Hangman'sDeath that's a known bug (phab:T313638). Temporarily switching your language setting or skin may help for a while. May I ask which browser you're using? --El Grafo (talk) 08:01, 26 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@El Grafo: I'm using Firefox 78 and I can not update it. Maybe that is the reason, but the software collection is controlled by a central group of admins and no software can be added, removed or updated without them. It sound like for the moment there is no real solution for this, right? --Hangman'sDeath (talk) 10:57, 26 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
No, no real solution at the moment as far as I'm aware. El Grafo (talk) 13:26, 26 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Yes check.svg Resolved
I think that this question was replied to adequately based on the supplied information. If you have anything to add or a follow-up question please feel free to replace this box with your comment. This section will be archived after two days. Sorta resolved --Hangman'sDeath (talk) 07:22, 27 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

pdf[edit]

The Meitheis (IA meitheis01hods).pdf

ꯍꯦꯜꯂꯣ ꯀꯝꯃ꯭ꯌꯨꯅꯤꯇꯤ! ꯃꯦ ꯑꯥꯏ ꯅꯣ ꯍꯥꯎ ꯇꯨ ꯌꯨꯁ ꯗ ꯏꯟꯗꯤꯚꯤꯖ꯭ꯋꯜ ꯄꯦꯖꯦꯁ ꯑꯣꯐ ꯗ ꯄꯤꯗꯤꯑꯦꯐ ꯐꯥꯏꯜ? ꯐꯣꯔ ꯑꯦꯛꯖꯥꯝꯄꯜ, ꯏꯐ ꯑꯥꯏ ꯋꯥꯟꯠ ꯇꯨ ꯗꯤꯁ꯭ꯄ꯭ꯂꯦ ꯄꯦꯖ ꯅꯝꯕꯔ ꯱꯳꯱ ꯑꯣꯐ ꯗꯤꯁ ꯄꯤꯗꯤꯑꯦꯐ ꯐꯥꯏꯜ ꯏꯟ ꯑꯦ ꯋꯤꯀꯤꯄꯦꯗꯤꯌꯥ ꯑꯥꯔꯇꯤꯀꯜ, ꯍꯥꯎ ꯁ꯭ꯍꯨꯜ꯭ꯗ ꯑꯥꯏ ꯗꯤꯁ꯭ꯄ꯭ꯂꯦ ꯏꯠ? --Haoreima (talk) 06:13, 26 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The Meitheis (IA meitheis01hods).pdf
@Haoreima try this: [[File:The Meitheis (IA meitheis01hods).pdf|thumb|page=131]] El Grafo (talk) 13:30, 26 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Good pictures button doesn't work[edit]

Why doesn't that button work? It's so frustrating to see "Connection..." remain for life at the top of the screen. --.avgas 15:55, 26 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

approve english translation of an arabic page[edit]

Hi,

I added translation from arabic to english for this page: arabic: https://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%B9%D9%85%D8%B1_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%88%D8%B9%D8%B1%D9%8A english: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mohdw04/Omar_Wari

but i can't seem to be able to publish, how can i do that?

Thanks, Mohammad Wari Mohdw04 (talk) 18:08, 26 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hello Mohdw04, this is Wikimedia Commons, and not Wikipedia. Anyhow, you can "move" your draft page to the article namespace. In that link, where the menu says "New title:" you need to change the "User" to "(Article)" and remove "Mohdw04/" in the next edit box, so only the intended name of the article is left. Then you click "Move page" further down.
Afterwards, please go to the talk page of the new article and add a string of code to attribute the original Arabic article: {{translated page|ar|عمر الوعري}} De728631 (talk) 18:29, 26 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@De728631, thanks your answer.
i can't seem to be able to do that, can you please help? Mohdw04 (talk) 05:59, 27 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
✓ Done I moved the draft page to the article namespace. De728631 (talk) 18:02, 28 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Copyright help regarding File:Uberlingen2 mac.jpg[edit]

I just want to know if there is any update on the copyright status of this file. I am a freelance journalist and writer, and would like to use it to illustrate an article.

Elisa Bird cubansow@gmail.com

--88.25.63.152 19:08, 26 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Sorry, that file has since been deleted. It was inappropriately copied to Commons without license info, and there was no indication of a free license at the source website. You might inquire at the source website about their terms of reuse [3]. Thanks, -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 20:00, 26 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Suspicious "Own work" tag at File:Gabriella-Teychenné-2019.jpg[edit]

Hi, I'm new to the Commons, so I figured I'd ask here rather than start throwing tags around. The image at File:Gabriella-Teychenné-2019.jpg looks suspiciously like a selfie but is tagged as "Own work" by an editor who, according to their user page, is very much not the image subject. At the same time, I have no definite proof that this wouldn't be their own work. What's the standard procedure in cases such as this? - Ljleppan (talk) 07:28, 27 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Mmmh. No hits in reverse image search (neither Google, nor TinEye, Bing or Yandex). Not uploaded by a throwaway account. Looks like it was cropped considerably down to 0.22 Mpx - in a selfie she would have filled the frame so not much (if any) crop needed. The other option would be that it was downscaled to 0.22 MPix but that that would have required a really bad image to start with for it to be downscaled and still look this soft. It seems more likely to me that it was taken by someone else from a bit of a distance and then croppend down. Now, you could ask the uploader about it, maybe they still have the original with all the meta data intact. But with nothing more than a vague suspicion, personally I'd just let it go. El Grafo (talk) 08:23, 27 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks for the prompt reply! Your logic re: image size sounds solid enough and was something I hadn't considered, so I think I'll just let this be :) Ljleppan (talk) 08:34, 27 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
It seems to have been cropped from an image on Facebook; I've tagged it for copyvio now. Thanks for notifying. --Túrelio (talk) 08:59, 27 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Túrelio just out of interest: how did you find that? --El Grafo (talk) 10:43, 27 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Actually, I don't remember exactly. As I had seen your previous research-attempts, I possibly searched in Google-Images for her name.[4] --Túrelio (talk) 10:58, 27 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Uploading an image with a meme on top[edit]

If i saved an image found on wikimedia commons, and edit it. Am i allowed to reupload it to wikimedia commons as "my own work", or do i cite someone else's work? Many thanks Yarrowfes21 (talk) 13:45, 27 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • @Yarrowfes21: That is a "derivative work". You need to credit the original, use a license compatible with the original (for example, if its license terms include "share-alike" yours must, too; usually simplest to use the same license), and be clear about what portions of the work are your own vs. the original. - Jmabel ! talk 14:23, 27 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Sign on door "Closed because of illness" - do we have a category for that?[edit]

Hiking in Kaysersberg 07.jpg

The kind of sign on the door of that restaurant, which says in substance "Dear guests, we are sorry, but we are closed because of illness" is not uncommon. But where do we put it on Commons? Thank you in advance, Edelseider (talk) Edelseider (talk) 18:27, 27 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

We have Category:Closed signs with a few subcategories. (If you are aware of multiple other examples and think a more specific subcategory would be useful, you can create one. Thoughts on best name? "Closed due to illness signs"?) -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 18:42, 27 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Infrogmation: Thank you, I didn't know that category, and I see that there are indeed some subcategories. The COVID-19 one may be subordinated to a general "illness" category someday, but not today. :) All the best, Edelseider (talk) 05:51, 28 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Reg[edit]

Hi, Is anyone able to identify in which country this vehicles registration plate is in please?, Normally I can zoom an make out but sadly in this case I cannot Many thanks, Warm Regards, –Davey2010Talk 20:59, 27 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

It looks like "UA" (Ukraine) on the left side. -- Ooligan (talk) 21:39, 27 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Ooligan, Ah it is, Thank you so much, Many thanks, Warm Regards, –Davey2010Talk 22:21, 27 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

McDonald's McBites[edit]

Hi, I am a user, I'm not sure if I am allowed to upload a photo of Chicken McBites from Australia's McDonalds as I am very new to Wikipedia, Cheers! User102425 (talk) 02:08, 28 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • @User102425: The food itself? No problem. The packaging? Probably not, almost certainly a copyright infringement. - Jmabel ! talk 02:17, 28 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Wiki Loves Africa 2022/Winners[edit]

When are they going to release the report or result of "Wiki Loves Africa 2022/Winners" because they said July to August but we now in September on two days left for October. Freddy Kabeya (talk) 06:16, 28 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Uploading photos[edit]

Is it possible to save work while uploading a batch of photos before publishing Prof Ranga Sai (talk) 12:59, 28 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Yes. Uploaded files go to the UploadStash until they are published. --C.Suthorn (talk) 20:47, 28 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Wiki Loves Monuments 2022[edit]

Hi, when uploading a photo for Wiki Loves Monuments 2022 (Spain), where do I add the BIC code? Thanks in advance. Javi.cavi (talk) 15:00, 28 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

BIC means Business Identification Code? Ruslik (talk) 20:34, 28 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Leon Lynch Photo uploaded[edit]

Hi, I was given a link to upload the photo of Leon Lynch and I did so; however, at the bottom of the document I was sent from Wikimedia, there was language that I did not see until after I completed the upload. I do not own the copyright on this image but the Steelworkers team completed the online permission form for submission of the image and they sent me written permission to provide the image to Wikipedia. I don't know how to delete the image and start again but am happy to learn how to do that so I can clarify that the copyright is not mine. The photo is not my original work. Thanks. STTLynch (talk) 23:32, 28 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • @STTLynch: No need to start again: everything is editable. However, if you are not the copyright holder we'll need evidence for the license from the copyright holder. Probably at this point the process described at COM:VRT is the only way to do that. - Jmabel ! talk 23:51, 28 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • @Jmabel: For two days I have been working with Tony Montana at the United Steelworkers (USW)on the photo upload. He gave me written permission to share this image with Wikipedia as well as with the Digital Civil Rights Museum (https://www.digitalresearch.bsu.edu/digitalcivilrightsmuseum/items/show/114) as long as the credit line reads: United Steelworkers archive. Tony also uploaded this exact same file to Wikimedia Commons himself. Here’s his email correspondence on the topic.

To whom it may concern:

The attached photo is appropriate for use at: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leon_Lynch

I hereby affirm that I represent the United Steelworkers, the creator and/or sole owner of the exclusive copyright of the media work attached to this email.

I agree to publish the above-mentioned work under the Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 International.

I acknowledge that by doing so I grant anyone the right to use the work, even in a commercial product or otherwise, and to modify it according to their needs, provided that they abide by the terms of the license and any other applicable laws.

I am aware that this agreement is not limited to Wikipedia or related sites.

I am aware that the copyright holder always retains ownership of the copyright as well as the right to be attributed in accordance with the license chosen. Modifications others make to the work will not be claimed to have been made by the copyright holder.

I acknowledge that I cannot withdraw this agreement, and that the content may or may not be kept permanently on a Wikimedia project.

Tony Montana Communications Technician of United Steelworkers 2022-09-27

[generated using relgen]

Hope the above info is helpful in getting the photo credit edited. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by STTLynch (talk • contribs) 10:27, 29 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]


  • @Jmabel: By the way, USW’s Tony Montana said his ticket number for the photo upload is ticket #2022092810010647. Sharing in case that is helpful. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by STTLynch (talk • contribs) 10:40, 29 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Why does this happen?[edit]

Hi, I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask this, if it isn't, please let me know where I'm supposed to go.

I've been trying to use the "JustReplace.js" script made by User:Sreejithk2000 to replace this file with this svg file I created, but for some reason it keeps giving me this error message:


An error occurred while trying to do the requested action. A detailed description of the error is shown below:

Error while asking CommonsDelinker to replace Flag of Asakuchi Okayama.JPG with Flag of Asakuchi, Okayama.svg Reason: API request failed (abusefilter-disallowed): This action has been automatically identified as harmful, and therefore disallowed. If you believe your action was constructive, please inform an administrator of what you were trying to do. A brief description of the abuse rule which your action matched is: Protect automated filemover CommonsDelinker command page at Wed, 28 Sep 2022 23:51:26 GMT served by mw1343


And sure, I did manage to replace the town's emblem with the script, but when I tried it with the flag, it gave me that error message.

I just wanna know why it happens and if someone could replace it for me. Thanks. EnviousBird (talk) 00:04, 29 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

How to deal with images under a non-CC free license?[edit]

Specifically, I’m wondering if MIT-licensed image files (no advertisement clause, but requires “copyright notice and license”) are uploadable, and if so how I should explain in the metadata that it is okay to upload it. Thanks!

PS: The image in question is a logo (of a piece of free software). I understand Wikipedia takes the stand that logos are not copyrightable, but coming from graphic design I don’t buy this argument.—Al12si (talk) 01:04, 29 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Use the template {{template:MIT}} for the ExpPat (=MIT) license. "Wikipedia" never said that logos are not copyrightable. Most logos do not meet the threshold of originality. Everything that does not meet the threshold of originality is not copyrightable. If your logo does meet the threshold of originality you have to honor the copyright. --C.Suthorn (talk) 07:00, 29 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thank you. Most graphic design is a combination of simple shapes and text though; by that definition most graphic design is not copyrightable, which is clearly untrue.
Under US copyright law even forms are not copyrightable, nor fonts (that are not software). All these are a lot of work, including logos.—Al12si (talk) 07:11, 29 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I have another question. I double-checked the files and licenses and found that the PNG is MIT, but the SVG is CC4-NC-SA. So the PNG can be uploaded but not the SVG.

But the thing is there’s already a file here that’s a JPEG (so if I can’t upload the SVG there’s no point for me to upload anything), uploaded about a week after the SVG was uploaded to Github, under an “own work” claim. I don’t think that’s likely to be a true claim unless the person was claiming to have either taken a screen cap or rasterized the SVG. Should that upload be tagged somehow, and if so how? Thanks again and sorry for bothering everyone.

In case it’s relevant the logo in question is File:Wenyan-lang-Logo.jpgAl12si (talk) 07:44, 29 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Herb robert[edit]

I need to know if poisonous to digest —Preceding unsigned comment was added by 220.253.232.86 (talk) 02:06, 29 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

ماهو المطلوب في الملف الشخصي من بيانات ليكون مكتملا[edit]

ماهو المطلوب في الملف الشخصي من بيانات ليكون مكتملا؟ Hasanenmohamed55 (talk) 11:31, 29 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]