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1 Isle of Wight categories 23 11 RZuo 2022-09-22 07:20
2 Creating a subcategory in "Category:Media that need categories from ..." 12 6 Wouterhagens 2022-09-22 20:03
3 Using screenshots from movie scenes 8 4 Jmabel 2022-09-22 21:41
4 Notice: Oversighter stepped down 3 3 PierreSelim 2022-09-22 09:43
5 Old newspaper pdf files? 5 5 Yann 2022-09-26 19:01
6 Announcing the preliminary results of the 2022 Board of Trustees election Community Voting period 1 1 Zuz (WMF) 2022-09-22 08:51
7 An update from the Wikimedia Sound Logo contest 2 2 Huntster 2022-09-22 22:15
8 Migrating files 2 2 Jmabel 2022-09-23 14:57
9 How to create a new category ? 3 2 Ezzex 2022-09-25 17:57
10 Lelo Sejean 2 2 Fitindia 2022-09-26 15:24
11 Wikimedia Community Fund application for Wiki Loves Butterfly - Phase VI 1 1 Atudu 2022-09-26 15:08
12 Hernösands Stifts Herdaminne 1 1 Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) 2022-09-26 16:22
13 does my upload violate any rule? 9 4 Roxjor 2022-09-26 22:37
14 Wikimedia Sound Logo contest update 1 1 MPourzaki (WMF) 2022-09-27 19:38
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August 29[edit]

View it! Tool
Upcoming View it! tool discussion - for those interested in Wikimedia Commons & structured data - August 31, 2022

A project has been funded by the Wikimedia Foundation as part of the Structured Data Across Wikimedia Work to create a tool called View it! The tool aims to increase the discoverability of images on Commons, give readers and editors access to more images, and encourage contributors to utilize Commons & structured data. Please visit the Meta page if you are interested in trying out the prototype. We are having a demo and feedback session on August 31st at 16:00 UTC, please join us if you wish!

We hope to see you there! Sincerely, Dominic, Kevin, & Jamie

September 16[edit]

Isle of Wight categories[edit]

User:Blackcat has been moving some Isle of Wight categories from the standard usage "on the Isle of Wight" to "in the Isle of Wight", which sounds clunky and doesn't represent standard usage with regards to the Isle of Wight. I believed this was limited to Category:Streets on the Isle of Wight being moved to Category:Streets in the Isle of Wight, and changed the direction of the new redirect and recategorised. However, I have now stumbled upon Category:Towns in the Isle of Wight, also recently moved, and there may be more. Is an admin able to move this stuff back? Thanks, Simon Burchell (talk) 10:22, 16 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Just my two sense but the whole Category:Streets on the Isle of Wight thing sounds weird. Really, the whole "on" thing in general does. It might work for a small island with only a few streets that isn't an official administrative boundary, or something like a hill, but the Isle of Wight is a county and it has multiple streets. No other county level category tree has "on" for the child categories. Even Category:Streets on the Isle of Wight is the child category of Category:Streets in England by county. There's also already other "in" categories for Isles. For instance [["Category:Roads in the Isle of Man, Category:Roads in Anglesey Etc. Etc. So "on" doesn't seem to follow any precedent or established naming practices. At the end of the day though the streets aren't "on the Isle of Wight", they are "in the county of the Isle of Wight." --Adamant1 (talk) 10:43, 16 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
While they are in the county they are on the island, and when anyone is refering to the Isle of Wight, they are referring to the island, not the administrative county, unless they work for the council. As I say, "on the Isle of Wight" is the standard usage, in speech and in writing. Even the Counties of England template was modified long ago to take this into account. Simon Burchell (talk) 11:12, 16 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
As a note to the above, even the Isle of Wight Council uses "on the Isle of Wight", not "in the Isle of Wight". Simon Burchell (talk) 13:02, 16 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I am with @Simon Burchell on this. Things "in the Isle of Wight" could be underground infrastructure, but stuff on the surface is on the island. Comparatively, we have streets in the borough of Manhattan, but on Manhattan Island.   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 14:25, 16 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Anyone who is familiar with commons would realise that the whole matter has already been considered and decided upon. To the extent that the template has been changed to accommodate this. Unilaterally changing this is just inconsiderate of others and disrespectful of the community here. Blackcat is a problematic admin with a string of edit conflicts and admin tool abuses to his name, also he doesn't have the command and comprehension of English that he claims to have. Best just to repair the category and if the problem admin continues to create an issue report him at Commons:Administrators' noticeboard/User problems Oxyman (talk) 14:22, 16 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Apart the pointless things from the user above, I just wish to point out that @Green Giant: , who's a native speaker of English, on that topic, suggested here that he was prone to the form "In". Since he's a native speaker I trust him. So, what's the correct form then? - Blackcat Ar Icon Contact.svg 14:33, 16 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

A single post from one user on your very own talkpage shouldn't overturn a decided upon consensus this should be obvious to any respectful user here and pointing out that you are a problematic admin is not a pointless thing but valuable contextual information to comprehend your behaviour. Oxyman (talk) 14:41, 16 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I am also a native speaker, and live close to the Isle of Wight. The correct form is "on the Isle of Wight". Islanders say "on the Isle of Wight", the council says "on the Isle of Wight", everyone in my region says "on the Isle of Wight".

In addition to the above mentioned categories, the following have also been moved from their original names:

Simon Burchell (talk) 14:38, 16 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Simon Burchell: , maybe I haven't been clear. To me, doesn't matter the form. I had that information and acted accordingly. If from discussion emerges consensus for "on", I'm the first to change all in "on" the isle of Wight. -- Blackcat Ar Icon Contact.svg 14:48, 16 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I lean toward "in".
  1. A Beatles song ("When I'm 64") uses "in the Isle of Wight", so it is apparently reasonably colloquial.
  2. Given our multilingual situation, I'm inclined to stick with "in" even for islands, hills, etc. I created Category:Houses in Capitol Hill, Seattle, Washington even though as a local I would always tend more toward "on". - Jmabel ! talk 14:52, 16 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

With respect, the Beatles are from Liverpool, in the north, and their English usage is different. I would offer that an attempt to "regularise" the English language is a futile and thankless task. English is an irregular language with many idiosyncrasies. The consensus is already that usage should be "on the Isle of Wight". Simon Burchell (talk) 14:56, 16 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Isle of Wight resident here. We say "on the Isle of Wight". And by we I mean everyone - absolutely everyone. Having lived here continuously almost my entire life the only times I've seen "in" used are by the occasional business who use standardised signs and don't take the island's more unique status into consideration. Being completely honest coming over here and using the phrase "in the Isle of Wight" would get you laughed out the room by locals. Some great photos of the island by the way, Simon. Editor5807speak 00:34, 19 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

For me I guess this comes down to if the names of categories should follow the local conventions of a small minority of Commons editor who attend local city counsel meetings and think "on" is fine because that's how city counsel members phrase it, or should the category names follow how most everyone else in the English speaking world speaks and 99% of the categories are already named. This is a global project after all and the names of categories are supposed to follow the most common usage. I assume that doesn't mean "the most common usage in my neighborhood" or whatever either. Otherwise we could play the "lets follow hyper local naming conventions" game all day until categories are essentially useless out of just being somewhere to dump random files.

Personally as someone not from the Isle of Wright I would never think to do a search for something like "sports on the Isle of Wight." It's just not that type of place. Chalk it up to me being a speaker of American English or whatever, but the ability of people who don't speak a hyper specific form of British English where it's "Sports on the Isle of Wight" still need to be able to find what they are looking for. That isn't served well by disregarding how the rest of the world outside of the Isle of Wight speaks. --Adamant1 (talk) 03:33, 19 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Blackcat: as an admin you should know better to rename categories without consensus and bypassing Commons:Categories for discussion. This is clearly controversial. Multichill (talk) 16:38, 19 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Multichill: That's why I'm listening to what English-speaking people have to say on the topic. But is there a clear consensus leaning towards either form? -- Blackcat Ar Icon Contact.svg 22:12, 19 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Yes, there is a clear and established consensus for "on" as you can tell by checking "what links here" on some of the categories. That points to an earlier discussion at https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Archive_22#Isle_of_Wight_categories from 2010. It is an old consensus and consensus can change over time but the emphasis is on the person wanting the change to form the new consensus. Until the new consensus is formed, the old one still stands. From Hill To Shore (talk) 08:15, 20 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
there is a clear and established consensus I'd hardly call the outcome of a discussion on a random administrator board that had less participants then this does "a clear and established discussion." Especially considering there are as many people in this discussion that want the categories to be "in" then there was in that discussion who thought it should be "on." Personally, I see no reason Blackcat should have to "form the new consensus" about it when there wasn't a formal process done to "form a consensus" in the first place. --Adamant1 (talk) 20:10, 20 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
A consensus is a consensus. I find it strange how you want to belittle a previous consensus as invalid just because it disagrees with your current opinion. A consensus of any scale or quality remains valid until a new consensus is formed. Yes, this current discussion is of a larger scale but it is a logical fallacy to try to link it to Blackcat's actions before the discussion started. My point is solely that when conducting a large scale renaming of an existing set of categories, it is best to consult a group of editors and not rely on the personal opinion of an individual editor. This is especially important where you are working in a language where you have a limited grasp of nuance. Have the discussion, form a new consensus and then act. From Hill To Shore (talk) 06:41, 21 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
It wasn't a consensus though. At least not in any way that matters. In no way am I belittling anyone or anything by saying so, but all that happened was someone asked an admin to move all the categories and they did. It's a pretty routine occurrence. 99% of the time when someone asks an admin to move something they just do it and their actions don't reflect the wishes of the broader consensus in any way, shape, or form. Claiming I'm somehow belittling anything by saying so really comes off like a bad faithed strawman. We can disagree about what makes something without you needlessly disparaging me about it.
That said, I don't mind there being a wider discussion about it, we are having one here, but it's not like you can't make the same ridiculous gripe about how people who think it should be "in" just have a limited grasp of the nuances of English no matter where or how the discussion ultimately takes place. I can almost guarantee that if no who thinks it should be "on" has a better argument then that now they aren't going to have one later. So why waste everyone's time with it? Really, we should just discount the whole "limited grasp of nuance" thing as derogatory, irrelevant nonsense on it's face and be done with this since that's literally all you seem to have. --Adamant1 (talk) 07:54, 21 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I am a professional writer and commentator on the Isle of Wight. This discussion is a not a new one. It is a valid discussion to have albeit the tone has not always been positive, so I'm grateful to Simon Burchell for bringing the point up. Both positions have some merit and neither are wrong. Nonetheless consistency does require choosing one or the other form. It is true that most writers on, or familiar with, the Island would use the 'on' form and that is a characteristic of the way language is used for this particular location. But to be consistent with other locations it is often found as 'in' when used by those from elsewhere. I note that Google Trends shows 'on' as a more popular form, and has done so consistently for a long time. Using the geographical tools one can infer that the 'in' form has an association with Isle of Wight County, Virginia (which is not an island). Whereas in the UK the 'on' form is always dominant. It seems unlikely that we will form a consensus on this issue as there are clearly two current usages, both correct. However I see no reason that the less popular and less distinctive 'in' form should displace the 'on' form, and unless there is a demonstrable benefit from doing so I would not support changing these categories, or any others, to 'in'. Naturenet (talk) 09:55, 21 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I'm all for consistency myself. If you look at other categories for Isles in the UK from what I can tell some use either "in" or "of." For instance Category:Isle of Skye has Category:Animals of the Isle of Skye‎, Category:Buildings in the Isle of Skye‎, ad nauseum. Although others like Category:Isle of Arran do use "on", it's to a much lesser degree then "of." At the end of the day it doesn't really matter that much, but the whole thing about how "in" is consistent with other locations in the UK or that it's how proper British English speakers refer to isles are both clearly nonsense. --Adamant1 (talk) 11:07, 21 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
(i'm not a native speaker.)
obviously, these two rules are true: 1. use "on" for an island; 2. use "in" for an administrative division.
then comes a problem: what if the name of an administrative division contains the word "island"?
(when the word doesnt contain "island", e.g. iceland (island), taiwan (island), nobody disputes the use of "in". when an island is not an administrative division by itself (e.g. some of these w:List_of_islands_by_area#Islands), most people would happily use "on", i assume?)
personally, i prefer using "in" as long as it's an administrative division.--RZuo (talk) 07:20, 22 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

September 20[edit]

Creating a subcategory in "Category:Media that need categories from ..."[edit]

Category:Media_needing_categories_as_of_19_November_2021 has 9,638 items, most of which have no description, and the filenames like "-i---i- (24311898958).jpg" are meaningless. Is there an easy way to put all files without description into a subcategory so that it is easier to categorize the other files? Wouter (talk) 15:31, 20 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Wouterhagens: I don't know about detecting "no description", but you can use the alphabetic Table of Contents to skip past the "-i---i-" files, then take one "previous page" to start immediately after them on the lower part of this page. - Jmabel ! talk 18:11, 20 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Jmabel: thanks for the advice. Could you explain the part "&pagefrom=0&subcatfrom=0&fileuntil=0#"? May be I can use it in Category:Media_needing_categories_as_of_24_November_2021 with 21.812 items to skip all files that start with BSK (see File:Bsk 001 (36253396910).jpg). Wouter (talk) 18:44, 20 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Wouterhagens: Tapping on "C" should bring you to this page, right after where the "Bsk"s used to be.   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 19:17, 20 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Wouterhagens: I've never really analyzed that part of the URL, it's just the result of the two steps I described. - Jmabel ! talk 19:21, 20 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks, that helps to skip large amounts of files that I don't think need a category anymore because they are already in hidden categories. Wouter (talk) 19:34, 20 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Wouterhagens: Ah, but they do still need cats in the topics tree.   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 14:52, 21 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@User:Jeff G.: You're absolutely right, but I'm afraid no one will add categories to these files. For example File:Arkansas -Jackson County - Yell County- - NARA - 17384476 (page 1413).jpg which is in the hidden category Category:Images from the National Archives and Records Administration. It's possible to add the Category:Documents of the United States to that file, but I don't think it's doing anyone any favors. I rather think there will be a protest when thousands of files are added to that category in that way. Wouter (talk) 19:52, 21 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Wouterhagens Actually, what is needed is someone to create a category for the entire document, from File:Arkansas -Jackson County - Yell County- - NARA - 17384476 (page 1).jpg until the last page and then categorize the category. Adding each page on its own will just over a thousand separate images that all belong in one category. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 18:21, 22 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Category:US National Archives File Unit: Arkansas (Jackson County - Yell County) already exists. It would take only a few seconds with Cat-a-lot to place all 1,666 files into it. --Animalparty (talk) 19:33, 22 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Done! Thanks! Wouter (talk) 20:03, 22 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I opened Commons:Deletion requests/File:-i---i- (11380992645).jpg as this images seem to fail COM:SCOPE Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 17:09, 22 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

September 21[edit]

Using screenshots from movie scenes[edit]

What are the rules guiding the uploads of screenshots from films on Commons for use on Wikipedia? Production companies and studios release trailers and still shots as part of their promotion to be widely used. Can we upload screenshots of these to Commons to give film related articles more visual appeal to readers? Danidamiobi (talk) 14:33, 21 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Danidamiobi: No, sorry, we don't allow Fair Use here.   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 14:50, 21 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Some older U.S. stills and trailers were released without copyright notice or registration back when that was required for copyright, and those were immediately in the public domain. However, this only applies to those few and, frankly, if you are not expert in the area you are unlikely to identify ones that haven't already been added. - Jmabel ! talk 15:22, 21 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
1. How about personalities’ Instagram videos. How can they be repurposed on Wikipedia? i.e If Lupita Nyong’o posts a video of her making comments (for example with the Smithsonian Institution), can we use it?
2. How about that videos production companies/studios/media companies and other organizations make available? e.g. this provided with Chimanda.
3. Can I use images from websites released by a media company by adding the company as author and add the URL of the website I got it from as a source with CC BY-ND 4.0. I see it done here with [[1]]. Can I use the first image on this New York Times article on Genevieve Nnaji's article and cite Netflix as author and New York Times as source?
4. Is this instance of a screenshot from a movie scene used on Genevieve Nnaji's article valid?
Thank you for your kind answers @User:Jeff G., @User:Jmabel. Danidamiobi (talk) 18:07, 21 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • @Danidamiobi: Most likely none of that can be used on Commons. File:Black Panther Wakanda Forever logo.png is too simple to copyright, which is why we can have it: its simplicity (just typography) places it in the {{Public domain}}, although you will note that it has a warning that it is trademarked.
  • We do not accept NC or ND licenses. Also, you cannot offer/introduce any license on copyrighted material where you are not the copyright holder. Only the copyright holder can issue a license.
  • Again: Commons accepts only materials that are either in the public domain or have a sufficiently free license. - Jmabel ! talk 18:35, 21 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    I understand your answer on copyrights. Can I simply upload a material that is not copyrighted or restricted at the source page, cite the source page and author and indicate that it's not my work? Danidamiobi (talk) 14:46, 22 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Yes, see sufficiently free license (note that material is copyrighted by default if copyrightable, no notice is needed nowadays ) @Danidamiobi: Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 17:06, 22 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    @Danidamiobi: You can do that if the material is in the public domain or free licensed. However, the sort of thing you are describing typically is not. - Jmabel ! talk 21:41, 22 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

September 22[edit]

Notice: Oversighter stepped down[edit]

i think this is worth the attention of the whole community. last week, an oversighter User:PierreSelim lost his sysop status because he was considered inactive and consequently lost his oversighter status: Commons:Administrators/Inactivity section/Aug-Sep 2022. he performed 24 oversighter actions in june according to special:permalink/686257729.--RZuo (talk) 07:20, 22 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

There's also currently a vote for a new Overighter going on at Commons:Oversighters/Requests/Minorax, so we'll likely be back to having four of them soon. Thanks for your service, PierreSelim! --El Grafo (talk) 07:43, 22 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks @El Grafo: for the kind words. --PierreSelim (talk) 09:43, 22 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Old newspaper pdf files?[edit]

is it appropriate to batch upload scans of old newspapers in pdf format? i think hosting them on commons makes them more accessible than other websites for interested historians and hobbyists. example: https://archive.org/details/shenbao-1872.09.03 .--RZuo (talk) 07:20, 22 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@RZuo Many of them are organized in PDF format and there is already a lot from the Internet Archive. Ricky81682 (talk) 07:28, 22 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Commons is a media repository, not a newspaper archive. Files that contain mostly text are not really our concern unless they are of particular use for one of our sister projects. It's a bit of a grey area. We do have scans of selected old books that serve as basis for getting them into Wikisource, but I would advise against batch uploading piles of newspaper scans. See also Commons:Project_scope#PDF_and_DjVu_formats. El Grafo (talk) 07:36, 22 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Quite clearly stated, Wikimedia Commons is a free media repository, we accept PDF when they are of potential use on other projects (e.g. scans for Wikisource). PierreSelim (talk) 14:53, 23 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
IMO this is in scope for Commons. However please take care to insert complete information (content description, date, author, source, etc.) at least in the original langage (Chinese here) and at least a summary in English. Thanks, Yann (talk) 19:01, 26 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Announcing the preliminary results of the 2022 Board of Trustees election Community Voting period[edit]

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Zuz (WMF) (talk) 08:51, 22 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

An update from the Wikimedia Sound Logo contest[edit]

Hi everyone, dearest Commons community members,

The Wikimedia sound logo contest launched last week and we have been positively surprised with the global response received. As of September 21 @ 17:00 UTC, there were 615 submissions from 94 countries, all of them diligently screened by a small team of dedicated volunteers. With so much enthusiasm and still 3.5 weeks to go, we are happy to invite you to listen in. In order to preserve the anonymity of each submission and to make it all more accessible and user friendly, we will regularly share random compilations of them. Enjoy listening and many thanks to those of you who have submitted or helped spread the call.

MPourzaki (WMF) (talk) 21:29, 22 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks for keeping us updated, MPourzaki (WMF). There's a handful of the samples that really spoke to me, so I look forward to hearing the finalists. Huntster (t @ c) 22:15, 22 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

September 23[edit]

Migrating files[edit]

Is it considered acceptable to perform file migrations from other Wiki, for image which are reasonably trustworthy?

For example many photos from https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Category:CC-0_files seem to be acceptable for transferring them. Or https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AWhatLinksHere&target=Template%3AInformation&namespace=6 with valid license templates.

Is it OK to upload them here (which would enable to request deletion at OSM Wiki). Is it necessary to do something extra? Is such action welcome/unwelcome?

Are there maybe helper scripts already existing?

I looked for example for Commons:Migration

I would do edits with manual review, including categorization, so I think that bot flag would not be needed. Maybe from a separate account.

Feedback welcome!

Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 08:26, 23 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

September 25[edit]

How to create a new category ?[edit]

I managed it years ago but something seams to have changed. Ezzex (talk) 17:32, 25 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I think the easiest way is to give the new category to an existing image and then click on the red link. This makes sense to me because an empty category is usually useless. -- Andreas Stiasny (talk) 17:44, 25 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks--Ezzex (talk) 17:57, 25 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

September 26[edit]

Lelo Sejean[edit]

Hi, I have found that 3 different accounts uploaded low quality images of this football player. They were tagged as CSD F10, and deleted by Fitindia (then restored), Túrelio and I. This guy has only 3,520 results on Google Search, but has already a WD entry. So either Google failed to report about a notable football player, or we have a team (read socks) trying to promote him. Any idea? Yann (talk) 14:56, 26 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I to feel its a sock job but I restored as I thought he might be a notable football player. Seems to be a good case for COM:RFCU - FitIndia Talk 15:24, 26 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Wikimedia Community Fund application for Wiki Loves Butterfly - Phase VI[edit]

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Hi, Greetings from the Wiki Loves Butterfly team.

As you might know, for the last 6 years, we have been documenting butterfly taxons endemic to eastern and north-eastern part of India through the Wiki Loves Butterfly project. Our aim has been to increase the amount of free license materials along with enrichment of related content on different Wikimedia sites. Our project was previously supported by 4 Rapid Grants and currently the fifth phase is running under the Project Grants.

Since the beginning of the project in 2016, we have gained a considerable amount of expertise, maturity and confidence to successfully plan and execute field-documentations and expand our area of activity in remote deep forests of north-east India. We are now applying for the Wikimedia Community Fund so that we can expand our activities in our next phase to bring more quantity and quality to the topic.

You can find our fund proposal here -

Regards, Atudu (talk) 15:08, 26 September 2022 (UTC) , Project Lead, Wiki Loves Butterfly teamReply[reply]

Hernösands Stifts Herdaminne[edit]

Is there anyway these pdf files of Hernösands Stifts Herdaminne can be loaded to Commons automatically? See: https://web.archive.org/web/20170331120722/https://solace.se/~blasta/herdamin/index.htm . The files also exist as scan at Project Runeberg. See: http://runeberg.org/hernosandh/ . The Solace version was converted to ASCII text and stored as pdfs. Both versions loaded would be ideal. The version at the Internet Archive is so highly compressed, that it is useless. --RAN (talk) 16:22, 26 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

does my upload violate any rule?[edit]

Hello,

this is my artwork: File:Mahsa_amini.jpg

Mahsa amini.jpg

after death of mahsa amin, a 22 years old iranian girl. i desided to create a typography of her portrait. but because she died young i finished it incomplete and wrote it as a sentence, like this artwork: I Can See the Whole Room...and There's Nobody in It! dose my upload violate any Wikimedia rule and should be deleted? i use proper categories for it.

thanks,--Roxjor (talk) 18:14, 26 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi Roxjor, with regard to her face/head in your image, did you use any photography or drawing as a template? --Túrelio (talk) 18:24, 26 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hello,
i used picture of her that can be found in for example nytimes, guardian , and guardian mentioned that image source is twitter. and in twitter post they mentioned that image is from her Instagram account. almose all news agencies used that photo. Roxjor (talk) 18:41, 26 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Ok. Then there is probably a problem with copyright. Images on Twitter are not free and usage by newspapers has no meaning wrt copyright. Your image might be a derivative work. However, to judge whether or not a permission by the original photographer is required needs an evaluation by users experienced with artworks (I am not). You may bypass this by tracking down the true photographer, which might not be easy wrt the political situation in Iran. But, if you are able to do so, you might ask him/her directly whether he/she allows to use said photography for the creation of your artwork (needs confirmation by sending an email to permissions-commons@wikimedia.org (OTRS). --Túrelio (talk) 18:59, 26 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
guys, i found the source of image, the newyork times mentioned the source is iranwire.com, the family of girl gave that photo to iran wire. i :::::emailed them (however i don't know my art is derivative and need permission or not?): hello,
i created this artwork:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Mahsa_amini.jpg
but we have problem about its copyright, in this talk:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump#does_my_upload_violate_any_rule?
we searched for sources, the newyok times in this link mentiond the image source is your site iranwire.com:
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/21/world/middleeast/iran-protests-mahsa-amini.html
""A picture of Mahsa Amini provided to Iran Wire by her family. The authorities have said she died of heart failure; her family say she had been in :::::good health."". about copyright of your upload do you give us premission to use this derivitative version on commons.wikimedio.org or no? if no :::::please email me and if yes pleas email : permissions-commons@wikimedia.org

best regards. Roxjor (talk) 20:10, 26 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • As of now, there isn't anywhere where this is being used on Wikipedia and I don't see why it would be used on Wikipedia anyways. The fact that an anonymous editor created an image and wants it publicized (see this discussion) doesn't mean it's appropriate for Commons to host. It is for all intends and purpose COM:SPAM, no matter how sincere the uploader is creating the work. Still, I don't see a point in deleting it at the moment. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 21:24, 26 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    hello, it's a protest art. ([2]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protest_art). i am iranian and worry about what happing in my country. right now we are against iranian regime. i designed this artwork. i want they use it. every artist like others use his artworks. i just told other people in discussion may my art useful for you. but my main propose is to share it freely for all people. it's a typography, and a protest art, it is useful. i am pretty sure 98% of 86 millions media uploaded on commons not used anywhere on meta projects. i deleted my acconut years ago. i'm not an active wikipedian right now. but if it's not propre for commons or has copyright problem, please request for delet it. i try to upload it another host or keep it in my pc as a part of my digital arts. i can't use my real ip or name because i'm worry about going to prison. more than 40 iranian killed in past 10 days by iranian police and thousands gone to jail. Roxjor (talk) 21:37, 26 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    here deletion nomination:
    https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Mahsa_amini.jpg Roxjor (talk) 22:37, 26 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

September 27[edit]

Wikimedia Sound Logo contest update[edit]

Hi everyone, happy to share a second batch of sound logo submission with you – enjoy listening. As well, this is a reminder that on Thursday September 29, 15:00-16:00 UTC, we'll be having a Music Production Workshop and drop-in clinic with our expert partner MassiveMusic. Please join to ask questions and discuss topics that will help you with your sound logo submission.

MPourzaki (WMF) (talk) 19:38, 27 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

September 29[edit]

The power of deletion[edit]

Is there any such thing as the power to close and delete without the full sysop powers and responsibilities? ~ R.T.G 07:03, 29 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Not that I'm aware of. Something like a deletion-only admin has been discussed intensely at least once in the past, though. --El Grafo (talk) 07:11, 29 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]